- August 26th, 2022, 7:41 pm#4972135
It’s such a betrayal of these characters that it’s almost unforgivable. I wish Jason Reitman would talk about this or be confronted with this. “What the hell did you do to the Egon/Ray dynamic?”. There’s a version of this movie where Ray goes to Summerville but is too late. Maybe he finds Egon’s body. He becomes maybe obsessed with contacting Egon’s spirit but gets nothing. Then when the family moves to the farm it’s the catalyst Egon’s spirit needed as a “unfinished business” sort of thing. That when Egon starts communicating with Phoebe. Meanwhile Ray is still in town investigating the cult of Gozer, maybe he takes a teaching job at the school and he takes Paul Rudd’s place a bit…you could still have Paul Rudd maybe he’s a guy who works with Ray at the school and he’s a super nerdy Ghostbusters fan. Paul Rudd is Marty Mcfly to Ray’s Doc Brown.
The moment at the end where Ray says “I’m sorry” is very touching. But..it’s not Ray Stanz. He’d never ever not believe a Egon
What’s funny is the Ray part is really troublesome for me. One of my favourite things in Ghostbusters is the Ray/Egon relationship. They don’t need other relationships, just as long as they both have each other and science. It’s part of what makes GB2 so special we get lots of Ray/Egon times.
Someone up there said the concept of Ghostbusting has always been more important than the characters or actors..man that’s hard to read. I guess everyone loves the franchise for different reasons. I always figure the people in it for the Ghostbusting would be disappointed because there’s really so little of it in the original movies. I’ve said this in the past I think but I’m the opposite in that the characters are the gravy for me. But to each his or her own.
Sav C wrote: ↑August 26th, 2022, 5:28 pm Is it not kind of odd how science is treated in Afterlife? Obviously Ray and Egon both have PhDs, so it seems really odd that Ray didn't believe Egon. Certainly Egon would have been able to make a strong case based on the evidence--yet Ray makes him sound like he went looney. Take GBII for example. Proving the existence of a well of souls should have been no harder than proving the existence of a river of slime. Sure the Con Ed guy might not have believed it, but Ray would have.It’s part of the contrived nature of the movie. They had to justify Ray not going to Summerville because the story they concocted was heavy on the Spengler Family. Harold Ramis isn’t alive anymore and the tech they used to bring him back was far too expensive to use more than they did so Ray had to be separated.
Callie's relationship is also odd. Obviously there are people who dislike science because they disagree with its findings (anti-vaxxers, flat earthers, etc.). The thing is, Callie doesn't seem to question the findings of science--she just doesn't like it because Egon was a scientist. It's plausible, but it feels a bit contrived.
It’s such a betrayal of these characters that it’s almost unforgivable. I wish Jason Reitman would talk about this or be confronted with this. “What the hell did you do to the Egon/Ray dynamic?”. There’s a version of this movie where Ray goes to Summerville but is too late. Maybe he finds Egon’s body. He becomes maybe obsessed with contacting Egon’s spirit but gets nothing. Then when the family moves to the farm it’s the catalyst Egon’s spirit needed as a “unfinished business” sort of thing. That when Egon starts communicating with Phoebe. Meanwhile Ray is still in town investigating the cult of Gozer, maybe he takes a teaching job at the school and he takes Paul Rudd’s place a bit…you could still have Paul Rudd maybe he’s a guy who works with Ray at the school and he’s a super nerdy Ghostbusters fan. Paul Rudd is Marty Mcfly to Ray’s Doc Brown.
The moment at the end where Ray says “I’m sorry” is very touching. But..it’s not Ray Stanz. He’d never ever not believe a Egon
What’s funny is the Ray part is really troublesome for me. One of my favourite things in Ghostbusters is the Ray/Egon relationship. They don’t need other relationships, just as long as they both have each other and science. It’s part of what makes GB2 so special we get lots of Ray/Egon times.
Someone up there said the concept of Ghostbusting has always been more important than the characters or actors..man that’s hard to read. I guess everyone loves the franchise for different reasons. I always figure the people in it for the Ghostbusting would be disappointed because there’s really so little of it in the original movies. I’ve said this in the past I think but I’m the opposite in that the characters are the gravy for me. But to each his or her own.
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